The hills are alive with the Old Soul Movie Podcast! Our 2021 March Madness bracket winner did not disappoint, and this episode lives up to the hype. Join Emma and Jack on an adventure to the wonderful Austrian town of Salzburg, where they join the von Trapp family in an exciting, dramatic, romantic story set on the cusp of World War II. See why this movie is revered by many to be one of the greatest of all time.
The hills are alive with the Old Soul Movie Podcast! Our 2021 March Madness bracket winner did not disappoint, and this episode lives up to the hype. Join Emma and Jack on an adventure to the wonderful Austrian town of Salzburg, where they join the von Trapp family in an exciting, dramatic, romantic story set on the cusp of World War II. See why this movie is revered by many to be one of the greatest of all time.
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The Sound of Music (1965)
[00:00:00] Intro: [00:00:00] Welcome to another episode of the old soul movie podcast, a show that features backgrounds, reviews, and reflections of some of the most influential movies ever made. And now your host, Emma and Jack
[00:00:37] Jack: [00:00:37] Hello everyone. And welcome back to another episode of the old soul movie podcast and congratulations to the sound of music for winning the 2021. Also movie podcast, March madness bracket. It was super exciting. A lot of fun. I was following it. Uh, I'm a, how are you and how excited are you to be covering the sound of music?
[00:00:58] Emma: [00:00:58] I am extremely excited to be [00:01:00] covering the sound of music I love and I mean, love. This is only the second time we've done it, but I love when we do these brackets, I just have the best time. Let me like walk you through my experience, watching the results, the seasons, you know what I was making it. I was trying to keep a couple things in mind or, you know, keep in mind some different feedback and requests that I've heard.
[00:01:27] One thing that I've definitely been. Told by people that I know that listen to it, they're like, yeah, cover more eighties movies. Let's do more eighties movies. So, you know, Jack came up with one and I was trying to come up with some and we, we definitely had two different eighties categories. Um, and I have to say, look, Uh, everyone is titled to their own opinion and they're entitled to an opinion that's different than mine.
[00:01:56] My opinion is not the end all be all, but I have to say [00:02:00] I was rather disappointed at the lack of love for the Terminator. One of my favorite movies ever slash eighties movies. Yeah, the Westbrook, I was shocked. I actually, I knew top gun would be popular. Um, and I thought that it was actually gonna take the whole West bracket and I was shocked, shocked, shocked, shocked at the result of that one.
[00:02:26] The great Gatsby ended up being the Victor in the West, but yeah, American in Paris was also getting a ton of love. So that was kind of exciting to see. Definitely. Um, that was a competitive one with all about Eve also and the East bracket, um, Yeah. Interesting. It was interesting. Yeah. The sound of music.
[00:02:48] That was another piece of feedback that I got, that people were really, really wanting us to cover that one. And I thought, you know what, I'll just throw it into the March madness bracket. We'll see how it [00:03:00] goes. Um, I predicted that it would come down between sound and music and top gun. So I add, I thought top gun might take it all.
[00:03:07] So I was just totally shocked by all.
[00:03:10] Jack: [00:03:10] Yeah. Gaspe pulled off a big second round ups at a top gun there, but yeah. Sound sound of music I would say is probably the number one seed overall in this bracket. So, uh, no shockers, no shockers there. I was hoping for a, uh, a surprise Goonies miracle. Um, it was a tough draw for the Goonies and the East bracket, but you know, it's about the, uh, the fun we had along the way.
[00:03:35] So we will also fit
[00:03:36] Emma: [00:03:36] in the Goonies as well. And, um, but I mean, I have to say, I love. Love love the sound of music. I was so excited to see it when happy first day of spring, also everybody. And this is probably the most quintessential springtime movie, in my opinion. I it's just, you know, it's got that fresh, invigorating, hopeful [00:04:00] feeling that I think we could all use.
[00:04:02] This is the most endearing likable movie of all time. And I took this experience, not writing a ton of notes, personally, usually I'm just like research, research, research, and writing my thoughts and then putting it out there. And I haven't watched this movie in a while, so I just took this as I'm just going to watch this for pure enjoyment and we're just going to have a nice little.
[00:04:29] Jack: [00:04:29] Chat about it. Of course. Why not? That's what it's all about. I mean, I hadn't seen the sound of music in a long time, any long, long time. So I think this might actually only be like the second or third time that I've, I've seen it. And so, yeah. I mean, I, I love it. I mean, the, the sound and the sound and the music and it is amazing, but.
[00:04:52] It wasn't something that I think I kept coming back to, I think just because it is a very long film, it's about three hours. So it is an [00:05:00] investment. It's probably one you have to reserve a full night for. Um, but if you want to watch it in its entirety, you could split it up part one, part two, that would be maybe a more digestible way to watch it.
[00:05:11] There is an intermission because there isn't an intermission, which is pretty cool. I wish more films actually had intermissions like that. I would love that. I think that'd be pretty cool. But, um, but yeah, this is a big one. I feel like will this won't be the only time that we cover it on the pod, just because it is such a, a big movie.
[00:05:28] It's, it's up there with, I think all the big names, you know, just throw one out and it's it's right there. So this is a staple piece of, uh, Hollywood just. History. And so, uh, yeah, can't wait, can't wait to talk about it. This one might be just a little bit more relaxing. Uh, enjoy the, uh, I guess the season, the season of real March madness, along with this, hopefully this could be just a nice little, you know, break in between all the action going on, but, uh, yeah, we'll definitely be covering it more in the future.
[00:05:57] Yeah,
[00:05:57] Emma: [00:05:57] definitely watch it. If you haven't seen it, [00:06:00] definitely watch it. And if you haven't seen it in a while, I encourage you to check it out again. I just had an absolute blast watching this last night. I just had so much fun. I was smiling the whole time. I was singing along the whole time. I'm going to like hold myself back from singing along this podcast episode, but it was a good time.
[00:06:18] And I want to put this like slight disclaimer out there that, um, this movie does take place in the thirties in Austria. And of course that is when the Nazi regime took over. That area. And so, um, the topic of Nazis does come up. As we talk about this movie, there may be some sensitive type of historical topics
[00:06:42] Jack: [00:06:42] brought up and, uh, it is a very tame movie.
[00:06:47] Um, I, I will say there's nothing quite, uh, I guess like, Graphic about the depiction, besides that, they're just kind of like a piece of the plot. So, um, this is [00:07:00] obviously a very family-friendly movie. Yeah. That's just like another piece that, um, I don't know, it's worth mentioning. It's still like very like friendly movie, but, um, but yeah, I think, okay, so this is, I guess, going to be more of just a, a personal kind of run down between like us, our history of the film.
[00:07:19] Um, do you remember the first time that you watched it or like your earliest memory with it? So youngest,
[00:07:26] Emma: [00:07:26] so, so young. So, I mean, I couldn't even tell you. I was really little like grade school. Yeah. I just remember loving it. It's one of those that it's so nostalgic, it just brings me back to such a happy, sweet time.
[00:07:45] So I get that same feeling every time I watch it, I think. And it's been years since I have rushed. I think the last time I watched it was maybe in college. Um, but it was long overdue. Cause I think this is one that is just an instant mood booster. So [00:08:00] I love it. Do you
[00:08:01] Jack: [00:08:01] remember the first time you watched it?
[00:08:03] No, I don't. I really don't. I think the first time I watched it was actually like the last quarter. So I remember it being a little bit more dark in nature just because of everything that was going on. But, um, I guess rewatching it this last time, it is practically impossible not to sing along at certain points, certain songs.
[00:08:25] Uh, it is a very just cheery, uplifting film, especially the first half. That first half is like. Oh, my gosh. It's a little bit too. Perfect. Sound like Christopher Plummer? Yeah, maybe. I mean, Austria just looks amazing. I really loved, uh, camera work. The, the cinematography of everything. Um, I was just in awe of the shots like this
[00:08:51] Emma: [00:08:51] movie makes me want to go to
[00:08:52] Jack: [00:08:52] Salzburg.
[00:08:53] Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, it's beautiful. It definitely got its uh, its recognition, I would say [00:09:00] from the Academy, not only that, but it was a huge commercial success. The biggest of the time. So. I don't know if you want to talk a little bit more about the background of it, but feel free to, to go, go off.
[00:09:12] Emma: [00:09:12] This movie was distributed by 20th century Fox, right?
[00:09:16] And just a little bit more like film history for you. Uh, 20th century Fox was in trouble. They blew a ton of money on the movie Cleopatra from 1963, starring Elizabeth Taylor. And they were in quite a bit debt, I believe. And this is the movie that kind of totally reversed their fortune when it was released.
[00:09:43] It. Did become one of the most commercially successful films of all time, uh, became number one in the box office. I think it held that number one position for 43 weeks and ended up being the highest grossing movie of 1965. Um, I don't know if it [00:10:00] was the highest grossing movie or highest grossing movie musical, uh, but it held a title like that for about five years.
[00:10:07] So. Just wild. Okay. What I thought was really crazy was that, um, there was a lot of repeat business from film goers. So in some cities in the States, the number of tickets sold exceeded the total population of that city. And we also have an amazing cast Dame, Julie Andrews, as Maria Von Trapp. Oh, this is also based off a true story.
[00:10:33] Some people actually don't know that these were real people. Yes. Maria Von Trapp was a real person. The captain was a real person. The children were real people. So this is all based off of true events, which I think is just super cool. Yes, but back to the cast, um, Julie Andrews was Maria van chap and she actually almost turned it down because she thought that the role would be too similar to the role in Mary Poppins that came [00:11:00] out in 1964.
[00:11:02] And okay. I kind of get it. We as an audience now watching them, obviously like these are two totally distinct movies, but I could see that in a career, something kind of back to back playing a nanny type. Um, it might be kind of like, Ooh, this is a risk, but I will say, I think that the character Mary Poppins and the character Maria Von Trapp are two completely different personalities.
[00:11:29] So I think that that's why it works. So Christopher Plummer, our late Christopher Plummer, who'd passed away earlier this year. So devastating. Um, when I put kind of the tribute to his work on our social media, I can't even tell you how many people reached out to me saying, Oh my gosh, he wasn't that, but that was him.
[00:11:52] That was the dad from the sound of music. Legacy is insane. He just worked for so, so long. Um, [00:12:00] Canadian actor. This was a definitely a very big work for him. Yeah, just very prolific. And he did not have the best time working on this movie kind of said it was like, Overly sweet sappy. Um, just wasn't really loving what he was doing.
[00:12:20] Um, I know he kind of like drank quite a bit, uh, to get through the process. He even said working with, uh, Julie Andrews, I'm gonna miss quota, but something like it was being hit on the head with a Valentine's day card every day, or being hit on the head with a hallmark card every day. Um, but they ended up becoming really good friends and he's since said how much she's admired her professionality and, um, yeah, so he was not feeling it.
[00:12:47] And then we have the kids. There's seven Von Trapp children. And I think this is fascinating. There is. Okay. So these are the kids that [00:13:00] ended up, um, uh, these are the actors that ended up playing the kids. Charmian Carr, Nicholas Hammond, Heather Menzies, Duane chase, Angela Cartwright. Debbie Turner can Karath.
[00:13:12] Uh, yeah. And so I thought it was wild reading. Some of the names of kids that auditioned. Some of our Von Trapp children, contenders include Kurt Russell, Richard Dreyfus, Veronica Cartwright, the sister of, uh, Angela Cartwright who plays, um, for Gita. I believe. Let's see Alan Osman. the us like the oldest of the Osman kids.
[00:13:37] Um, we also had me a Farrow Patty Duke, who is, um, Sean Aston's mother, uh, Geraldine, Chaplin, Shelly Fabray from some Elvis movies and she's very famous pop star, Terry Gar. Uh, yeah. That's um, uh, a lot of people like a lot of, a lot of names that we [00:14:00] know, so very competitive. I'm sure to get those roles.
[00:14:05] Jack: [00:14:05] Yeah.
[00:14:06] Wow. I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot there that you, uh, that you just covered. I think that. Uh, the actors, I guess, associated or included in the movie are very, very interesting, I guess, starting from top to bottom, Julie Andrews, of course, but, uh, Christopher Plummer, I think. And the relationship between, um, Sharmi and car.
[00:14:28] I don't know if you want to talk about that at all, but that one is definitely a kind of funny, kind of interesting because while I was watching it, there was okay. I didn't, I didn't think that there was anything up while I was watching it, but I did think that license. Lice Von Trapp was a little bit older than 16.
[00:14:46] I did not buy that. She was 16.
[00:14:51] Emma: [00:14:51] Yes. Okay. So Ms. Charmian Carr, the absolutely beautiful, talented, wonderful actress. [00:15:00] She played Liezel. Now, as you mentioned, she was not 16 going on 17. She was in fact 22. She was a model. She was working part at a doctor's office. Uh, wasn't really interested in being an actress at all.
[00:15:17] And then I think it was one of her friends sent a photo to proper wise the director and, uh, yeah, they were so smitten with her. They said that she was quote so pretty and had so much poison charm. We liked her immediately. So they called her in for an interview and boom, she got the part, so kind of some good fortune on her part because there was some heavy competition I would say, but yes, so.
[00:15:42] Okay. So she's 22 years old. Christopher Plummer was 35 years old. So that's like a 13 year age gap, which honestly isn't like that crazy. And, um,
[00:16:00] [00:15:59] Jack: [00:15:59] yeah, basically there was mutual attraction between 35 year-old Christopher Plummer and Charmian Carr 22 years old. So that was one of the, I guess, fun facts, if you want to call it that of the film that daddy was.
[00:16:15] Emma: [00:16:15] Okay. So yes, Sharmi car says she had a crush on him and he actually said the feeling was mutual on his part. And. He says that there was nothing more than just some flirting between the two of them. And it's reminds me of the Brady bunch. I feel like I was, I was reading that a bunch of the kids had crushes on each other and in the Brady bunch, that same thing happened when you cast a bunch of non-related people the same age and you're working together, like in real life, there's going to be that crush stuff that
[00:16:45] Jack: [00:16:45] goes down.
[00:16:46] Yeah. Yeah. So all all's fair, I guess they're love and war, um, which are very, you know, prevalent themes throughout this. So, um, so yeah, I mean, this is a, this is a fun one to dive in a little bit [00:17:00] behind the scenes, but Oh, so the other thing that I want to point out that I guess was just a little minor, you know, personal point was that I thought that, uh, Bridgette Von Trapp or Birgitta Von Trapp played by Angela Cartwright.
[00:17:14] I thought that young Angela Cartwright. Could grow up to look like Karen Allen, if you don't know who Karen Allen is from Indiana Jones, I felt like facially, they have a very similar structure. I could see her just as like a young Karen Allen. And I thought that it was Karen Allen at first while I was watching it.
[00:17:33] I was like, I know who this is. I know who this is, but alas, not the same person. So hit us up also movie podcasts, pod on Twitter. Uh, tell me that I'm just wrong. I'm absolutely wrong. How could I mistake those two? Um, or maybe that I'm right. Or maybe that you're shocked that, uh, the captain and license. Uh, might've had a thing.
[00:17:56] I don't know, let us know. I know [00:18:00] also move by,
[00:18:00] Emma: [00:18:00] well, touch upon it. But yes, this movie was filmed in Los Angeles and Salzburg, Austria. So it was shot on location, which I think is really cool. And I believe you can take a tour, like a sound of music tour and Salzburg. I haven't done it. It's on my bucket list of things to do.
[00:18:20] I've just heard about it. And I think that'd be really cool once the world opens back up again and I can travel. That would
[00:18:27] Jack: [00:18:27] be awesome. I, I definitely, I, uh, I would love to go just on those Hills and curl and dance around just, you know, Get out there, solo Julie Andrew style. It'd be great. I know
[00:18:42] Emma: [00:18:42] I'd be like such a tourist, but it would be a dream to me.
[00:18:46] Um, but yes, and yes, it was a very, you know, obviously, uh, commercially successful, but it did not, uh, it was not, not well loved. What am I trying to say? It basically was showed a [00:19:00] lot of love at the Academy awards. Yes. It won best picture. One of 11 musical movies to do so. Um, American in Paris was actually another one of those, which was a contender that actually would have been interesting if they were.
[00:19:15] Top
[00:19:15] Jack: [00:19:15] two semis semis for American in Paris, but
[00:19:19] Emma: [00:19:19] yeah. Yeah. So one best picture, one best director for Robert Weiss. Uh, Julie Andrews was nominated for best actress. Peggy would was nominated for best supporting actress, best art direction, best in photography. Best costume nominations, best film editing, win best score adapted when best sound win, lots of wins and numbs there.
[00:19:43] No surprise, no surprise. So deserved. This is just an incredibly. Lovable movie. I don't know how else to put it. I just,
[00:19:54] Jack: [00:19:54] we try to dislike this movie to not enjoy it. So [00:20:00] yeah, I mean, if you're in, uh, in the slightest bit of a bad mood, I feel like you throw this on. Even if it's in the background, you'll, you will hear one song that will turn the tide for you.
[00:20:09] And so, and odds are, you'll be singing it louder than you expected. Just make sure that, you know, the windows are shut and that your neighbors maybe can't hear you. But other than that, just have fun with it. And that's what I did. Totally.
[00:20:26] Emma: [00:20:26] There's only one song in this whole movie that doesn't quite hit different for me.
[00:20:30] And I can't wait to see if we're on the same page.
[00:20:33] Jack: [00:20:33] Okay. Is it the one? Nevermind. Well, okay. That'll give everyone something to look forward to.
[00:20:39] Emma: [00:20:39] This is such a great spring movie. Watch it. Oh, it is available. Uh, well, not for free. You have to have Disney plus, but it's available to stream on Disney. Plus if you have it, which I do think is kind of worth it.
[00:20:51] I've got to say they have a treasure trove there and I am getting nothing out of saying that there's just
[00:20:57] Jack: [00:20:57] a lot there. Yeah. Disney plus is pretty clutch. We [00:21:00] just got recently introduced to, uh, enter the world of it. So I'm excited to just explore literally every single movie that I haven't watched in the last, like two or three years and catch up.
[00:21:09] But, uh, but yeah, it's available there. And also I didn't check any other platforms to see if it was, um, available with like ads or anything, whether it be like Roku or YouTube, but I'm pretty sure you can find it to rent on Google play, Amazon prime video. Those are usually our two go-to is if you don't have a Disney plus, but yes.
[00:21:32] Options are endless to find this online. So I'm uh, is there anything else to cover before we dive into the, no,
[00:21:42] Emma: [00:21:42] I'm just excited. I hope that I remember everything off the cuff because I really did just take this in for sheer enjoyment last night and, um, I can't wait.
[00:21:53] Jack: [00:21:53] Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Again, everyone.
[00:21:54] This will probably not be the last time that we covered the sound of music, but yes, we're just going to have fun with this [00:22:00] one. It's a fun, easy weekend. Springtime. Austria everything. So, yes, let's dive in. Yeah. Our adventure
[00:22:09] Emma: [00:22:09] brought to Austria.
[00:22:11] Jack: [00:22:11] That's go into the sound of music. All right. So our journey begins seeing Maria, who is a free spirited, young Austrian woman, studying to become a nun at non Berg Abbey in Salzburg in 1938, her youthful enthusiasm and lack of discipline caused some concern.
[00:22:33] The mother ABAs sends Maria to the Villa of retired Naval officer, captain George Von trap to be governess to his seven children. Leisel free drink, Louisa Curt Brigita Marta and grasp. The captain has been raising his children alone, using strict military discipline. Following the death of his wife.
[00:22:54] Although the children misbehave at first, Maria responds with kindness and patience and soon the children [00:23:00] come to trust and respect her.
[00:23:02] Emma: [00:23:02] Wow. What a start. This opening scene is iconic, classic, beautiful, everything. Like it's just all the actives. Um, I just love it. So they did get the shot with a helicopter and I believe Juliet was blown over quite literally quite a bit during some of the helicopter takes when they got close to her, which I think is just, uh, an interesting, funny little image and she'd have to give like the all good side.
[00:23:34] So I just, I love it. Like, it just makes you immediately so grateful for nature for spring time for me, for literally music. And it just makes you so happy. I just felt so happy watching the scene. Loved it. And then come on, we got to talk about the Abbey, the nuns. Who's your favorite non
[00:23:58] Jack: [00:23:58] here? Wait, hold on.
[00:23:59] Before we get [00:24:00] into favorite nuns, I just want to say, I want to back it up to the very beginning again, because I want to mention something that was a connection that I don't think anyone's going to be expecting while listening to this, but I was getting major shining vibes. I was getting the, and I will explain this.
[00:24:18] So both of them use these helicopter shots to give, like what would now be kind of like a drone shot? Um, those like kind of sky. Views, you know, and I thought it was pretty funny. I mean, just personally you could see, like on the Hilltop, all the grass, I mean, the grass, the grass was just going crazy with like the blades.
[00:24:43] And so for me, I thought it was kind of funny that you could just, like, you could tell that it was being, or that a helicopter was being used, not only from just like the shakiness of the shots, which is an unfortunate part of, I guess, shooting from a helicopter, but also the grass just going crazy. [00:25:00] So, I mean, you could, you could make an argument that it's, you know, it was just a really windy, that's what my,
[00:25:05] Emma: [00:25:05] my imagination is.
[00:25:06] Like, it's just super windy in the Hills.
[00:25:10] Jack: [00:25:10] Yeah. And we'll go with that. You know, we'll go with that. But I dunno, I, I was just, I thought it was kind of funny. I was almost expecting like the, uh, the shining intro, which ironically enough also iconic music, iconic intro. So
[00:25:24] Emma: [00:25:24] I was getting. West side story, intro, show vibes, like that little lay of the land with the helicopter showing us where, where, where are we at?
[00:25:33] Where are we at? What should we expect? Uh, but yeah, that classic sixties musical intro, that seems to be a very good vehicle for starting your story off. Definitely as that also won best picture. What idea?
[00:25:47] Jack: [00:25:47] Going back, going back to your, your nun question, who is my favorite nun? I think personally I'm a big fan of sister, Bernice.
[00:25:56] She's great sister, Bernice pretty, pretty cute there. I like [00:26:00] her. Um, she seems like she'd be a good nun. Maybe. I don't know.
[00:26:04] Emma: [00:26:04] Um, I liked sister Margareta. She was cool. I think, I think, I think that's her name. I didn't write it down. There were a bunch of cool ones. How do you solve a problem like Maria, but what a pickle?
[00:26:18] What a question that is.
[00:26:19] Jack: [00:26:19] Can you just come in so hot with these, with these. I mean, the Hills are alive with the sound of music. And then right after that, how do you solve a problem? Like Maria, all these songs, I feel like are ones that we've all heard before. And so there's not one that you're listening to.
[00:26:34] That's like, Oh, I, I haven't, I'm unfamiliar with this. It's all kind of like playing a best hits album, maybe along with like a film and having a pretty cool story along with it. So, um,
[00:26:46] Emma: [00:26:46] and I think it's really interesting. I mean, like I mentioned, this is based off a true story. The real Maria really was in training to become a nun.
[00:26:54] And she has said an interview said she was way worse than any of [00:27:00] these descriptions. Uh, Julie answers Maria is getting. So I just thought that that was
[00:27:06] Jack: [00:27:06] cute. Were there any examples or was she just
[00:27:08] Emma: [00:27:08] saying, she just said way worse.
[00:27:13] Jack: [00:27:13] I love it. I
[00:27:14] Emma: [00:27:14] love it. I love a little troublesome, not in training. I think
[00:27:19] Jack: [00:27:19] you mixed Maria.
[00:27:21] I want to know more now. I want to know more.
[00:27:24] Emma: [00:27:24] It was hilarious. I don't know why I thought this was so funny. Um, I was kind of doing like some research, like scrolling through IMTP when I was watching the movie. So some, some things I'm remembering, but so gay Orrick, Fon trap. There's a little bit less information on him out there.
[00:27:42] So when Christopher Plummer was doing his research. He was, you know, trying to figure out who he was like, what kind of guy was this? He traveled to the Alps with a translator and found gaydar, Cron traps, nephew. And he asked him, what was your [00:28:00] uncle? Like, what kind of dad was he? And the nephew replied. He was the most boring man I've ever met.
[00:28:10] I'm just picturing this journey to like capture this guy. And he just here, he was very boring.
[00:28:18] Jack: [00:28:18] Oh man.
[00:28:20] Emma: [00:28:20] Yeah. I actually, there was actually a little like a Toroma behind sets. Maria Von Trapp apparently tried to lobby to Robert Wise. Like you made him way too stern. He was very soft and gentle in real life.
[00:28:34] He was not this kind of like. Guy. And they said, no, cause that's, I mean, that's what made the characterization work for their storytelling. So I get it. Um, but yes, there was that a petition to have him be portrayed more accurately. So I don't know, it's just kind of funny stuff and Oh, and I mean, I love that I have confidence [00:29:00] song.
[00:29:00] Um, it's such an instant mood booster. You have an interview. If you have anything that you're going into, if you're meeting like in-laws for the first time, I don't know. Um, if you're going into a situation that feels a little scary, play the song. It's great. And I love that she actually, there was one part where she kind of like Julie Andrews fell while filming that scene and they decided to keep it in because it matched the kind of juxtaposition, airy context of singing about confidence, but actually being really nervous.
[00:29:29] Um, so I just thought that was great. And then, okay. We meet the kids, we meet the kids with all their whistle whistle sounds. Okay. The only memorable whistle out of all those whistles was Kurtz. I was just calling Kurt all the time. It was
[00:29:44] Jack: [00:29:44] just like, yeah. Yeah, no, the, the whistle was interesting and I thought that it was kind of funny that, um, you know, he doesn't want anybody to yell across the grounds, but he's going to have.
[00:29:56] Like some of the most obnoxious whistles, like [00:30:00] ever, ever used, especially to call, uh, Maria. And so, yeah, I mean, I was sort of in awe of these children in their military discipline. I do like the, um, the order of everything. I thought that it was kind of funny to watch the uniforms and everything. And, um, yeah, just like how, I guess, like cold, maybe the children are, they're just like little tiny, uh, at the, at the beginning, but, um, who's your favorite kid?
[00:30:28] Emma: [00:30:28] Who's your favorite kid
[00:30:28] Jack: [00:30:28] off the bat? Uh, you know, man, it's tough. It's really tough because I felt like I actually thought that I kind of like Brigita Von Trapp. Like I thought that she was, um, kind of interesting her and, uh, Friedrich, the eldest boy. Um, I thought that there was some cool stuff going on between him and the captain maybe, but, um, I dunno, Brigitta seemed like.
[00:30:56] Uh, like more mature maybe for her age or something. [00:31:00] Like, I dunno, like kind of being in the middle. Maybe resonate with that because I'm also in the middle.
[00:31:07] Emma: [00:31:07] She was one of my favorites growing up because when we meet her, she's, you know, she's the one, who's a little out of line. She's got her head in the book and she comes in late and I'm like, that's me.
[00:31:18] I identify with that. Um, I love. How do you not love Liezel? Oh my gosh. She's just like leader of the pack there. I love her. Um, Marta. She's adorable. She's uh, she's your softy. She's going to be like your one that tells you, like, what's up. She's going to be your mole. If you're one of these 12 governesses, it goes through the cycle and, um, Gretel is probably the cutest little button I've ever seen in my life.
[00:31:45] Uh, the, I don't know, they're all durable. Like they're all gray. They're all so sweet. Well, they don't start. Let's
[00:31:51] Jack: [00:31:51] not leave out Kurt. Now
[00:31:54] Emma: [00:31:54] Kurt with his range, his book
[00:31:58] Jack: [00:31:58] say Kurt, [00:32:00] Kurt has those notes, I guess in the arsenal. I think
[00:32:06] Emma: [00:32:06] we found who's going to be the solo acts.
[00:32:10] Jack: [00:32:10] Maybe the forgotten Kurt. He's just going to just, Oh my gosh.
[00:32:15] He's going to surpass everybody here.
[00:32:17] Emma: [00:32:17] Okay. Louisa. She's like, to me, she's the troublemaker. She's the pot stir the one crawling up the garden, trellis with spiders in her hands. Yeah. She's your troublemaker?
[00:32:28] Jack: [00:32:28] Seven children though. Seven children though. Doesn't this make you want to just, you know, have seven Austrian named children who can sing and dance and, you know, just perform on a women's March in place.
[00:32:40] If they need to. It's just. One of those movies that makes you want to have a bunch of kids. Well, I'll tell
[00:32:46] Emma: [00:32:46] you this. I mean, you know, if max, if uncle max was here, you can see that they've got choreography down, they can learn steps, they can learn a routine. Uh, that's going to help you a lot, starting your musical career.
[00:32:58] Um, but I, I, my [00:33:00] favorite, one of my favorite lines was when Maria is all what's wrong with them. And captain's like, there's nothing wrong with the children, the governance, like that's such a great response, great dancer. I love the banter between Maria and the captain. It's very, to me, I think it's pretty flirty off the bat.
[00:33:20] Just me personally. A lot of people disagree with me. I'm already seeing some flirtation.
[00:33:26] Jack: [00:33:26] There's a lot of stuff that kind of goes down between all this. But I think that that's a good segue into, yes. One of my personal favorites, 16 going on 17, I thought that this was going to be the most. Beautifully shot sequence film in the film, any like both of the gazebo scenes I thought were, um, like really, really well done, but, um,
[00:33:48] Emma: [00:33:48] yeah, this was the place
[00:33:49] Jack: [00:33:49] for love.
[00:33:51] I thought that flirtation between Maria and the captain sort of escalated, uh, like once, um, they were seeing of their favorite [00:34:00] things and Julie Andrews, Maria just gets caught in the act by the captain. And you know, the kids are all in the room. I think they're, they're all starting to kind of warm up to her, but that's when the flirtation started to, I guess, be more evident to me.
[00:34:17] Emma: [00:34:17] I, uh, I think we're leaving out one little important nugget here, not nugget, but factor in the story we get introduced to Liesel's lover, boyfriend, Ralph, uh, Liezel his way out of this, his kids league. I am sorry. I, uh, and you know what, there's more to unfold there that we'll touch upon, but, um, I'm not feeling this Ralph for Liesel and, um, Oh little, not really a fun fact kind of crazy.
[00:34:47] This is one of the last shots to be shot in the film, the 16 going on 17 and Sharmeen card while performing, uh, she fell through the class at one point, um, and hurt her ankle. So if you look, I think you might [00:35:00] be able to see bandages. I know they covered it up pretty well, but, um, yeah. What a trooper props to you lady for being a professional and carrying it out, but yeah.
[00:35:10] My favorite things. I also love that scene. Yeah. That's another iconic song. Love, love that scene. Love the costumes. Oh, so cuddly and cozy and great. And, um, while the captain's away, the Von Trapp kids will play.
[00:35:26] Jack: [00:35:26] So while the captain is away in Vienna, Maria tears down drapes and makes play clothes for the children.
[00:35:33] She takes them around Salzburg in the surrounding mountains, and she teaches them how to sing. When the captain returns to the Villa with bareness, Elsa Schrader, a wealthy socialite and their mutual friend, uncle max Detwiler, that's air quotes around uncle they're greeted by. They are greeted by Maria and the children returning from a boat ride on the Lake.
[00:35:53] That concludes when their boat overturns displeased by his children's clothes and activities and Marias and [00:36:00] passionate appeal that he get closer to his children. The captain orders her to return to the Abbey. Just then he hears singing, coming from inside the house and is astonished to see his children singing for the bear ness, filled with emotion, the captain joints, his children singing for the first time in years afterwards, he apologizes to Maria and asks her to stay.
[00:36:21] Emma: [00:36:21] Wow. Okay. So, uh, the tides are turning a little bit and that seems to be a move. When in doubt, pull your drapes and make a new garments. Love
[00:36:33] Jack: [00:36:33] it.
[00:36:36] Emma: [00:36:36] Okay. What do we, what do we think of the outfits? What do we think of the costumes here in this segment?
[00:36:41] Jack: [00:36:41] I'm a huge fan of the drape clothes or the clothing. Made of these drapes, especially the leader house in, for the young gentlemen.
[00:36:51] Uh, I think that those are just extremely funny and, um, yeah, I mean just props to Maria, she can make clothes out of anything it looks like. So [00:37:00] yeah, just a it's it's a fun just seeing, and again, I think like the theme of this first act is just, everything is extremely cheerful. I think they even said it in like the, the opening credits that it was the last days of, you know, the golden years of Austria or it's like this, uh, this period of, you know, calmness and peace.
[00:37:18] And so, um, that's just the essence of what you're getting with all these scenes. You know, you're getting these very long, beautiful shots, the, uh, the scenery, you know, the, uh, the city itself. And it's great. I mean, it's impossible not to feel good watching it. And so yes, between that and. All of the, I guess these costumes, these iconic little costumes that just make me want to move to some mountain.
[00:37:45] Um,
[00:37:46] Emma: [00:37:46] gorgeous. I love that aesthetic. Like I just love the rural, fresh organic country. Look, some of these costumes are giving me, gosh, and the, you know, DOE a deer, a female [00:38:00] deer, Dover MI sequence on the side of the mountain. What more could you want out of life than to have, uh, an experience singing on the side of a mountain?
[00:38:08] Like that being serenaded by Julie Andrews and her guitar, actually, both Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer had learned how to play guitar. So I thought that was interesting, but okay. This song always reminds me of growing up because in our music class we would have to sing it. Yes. And then we would sing it.
[00:38:30] Seeing the scales backwards. So it's just in my head and grained forever that it goes, don't worry me Faso lot. T-to Doty, LASO Fahmy radar. Um, you just, you just remember the order forever. Yeah. I mean, I sing the song a lot.
[00:38:49] Jack: [00:38:49] I mean, yeah. I mean, I guess it makes sense memes, memes everybody, but yes.
[00:38:54] Emma: [00:38:54] Oh, so we meet uncle max and max Detwiler.
[00:38:58] It might be the best [00:39:00] like sleazy character name, not sleazy, but kind of like, um, ambitious, um, money, money, goer name. That's great. Um, and then we have the Baroness, Elsa Schrader. We finally meet this elusive Baroness. What's your first impression of, uh, of these two.
[00:39:20] Jack: [00:39:20] Of captain and bareness captain and bareness,
[00:39:23] Emma: [00:39:23] max and Baroness, the trio, the vibes that achieved.
[00:39:27] Jack: [00:39:27] I do think the bareness and the captain are kind of good for each other. At first glance. I kind of like that. They're both a little, you know, uppity a little bit high society. They, they seem to be good for each other. It's not necessarily how I might be, but I thought that they complimented each other well.
[00:39:46] And so I, wasn't not shipping this to happen, but, um, But yeah, I think that it's hard. It's hard when you have the kids and their, uh, maybe their input, [00:40:00] their, um, preferences taken into account. I know it doesn't really matter to the captain, but, um, I think that it's clear, you know, who is vibing with the children when both of them are back and interacting all together.
[00:40:16] So, yes.
[00:40:18] Emma: [00:40:18] Uh she's um, she's an interesting one. This bareness, she is extremely elegant. Uh, this, you know, this party, this trio, they're just not as fun as Maria, just not as free spirited. Um, something I thought was very interesting was that they were looking into Grace Kelly playing, uh, the Baroness, but she could not because of her commitments to being a Royal herself, being a full-time broil and not being able to be an actress.
[00:40:47] So. That just would
[00:40:49] Jack: [00:40:49] have been interesting. I was personally a little surprised at how easy or how little it took to get the captain to start singing again. Um, I thought that was a pretty quick [00:41:00] arc right there. You know, like there hasn't been sound in this house for, for years and any, any ounce of, or any kind of happiness or fun reminds him of his wife.
[00:41:09] And then maybe it truly was just a shock that his children had this talent, but he should have known better. He was drilling in basic rhythm and patterns into there. So you have done that yourself, captain? Um, yeah, so I thought that it was kind of funny to just see, like he immediately kind of just took back everything he had just said about Maria.
[00:41:33] Okay.
[00:41:33] Emma: [00:41:33] So I made, we get a little cue in from our earlier interaction with the very gossipy house keeper. Wait house had a house. Um, this ship is kind of like, I really shouldn't be telling you this, but I'm going to tell you. Oh, great. But, um, she was saying that, yeah, he used to love the music and stuff. And then the, when the wife died there wasn't but yeah.
[00:41:57] So I can kind of see where [00:42:00] the shock of it made him miss everything. And then, yeah, I dunno, I'm buying it. I'm buying how quickly he returned to the musicality. But I think in private, I don't think any part of him wanted that to be,
[00:42:13] Jack: [00:42:13] you know, any, any sign of weakness.
[00:42:17] Emma: [00:42:17] Yeah. I don't think he wanted to, you know, um, put his kids in the industry as a, as max quite wants to do so I don't know.
[00:42:28] I, I get it. And, um, Yeah. I just thought the relationship between him and Maria, it's just, it's just, it's burned it up. If it gets burned it up,
[00:42:40] Jack: [00:42:40] the, uh, the heat is rising the kitchen, so to speak and, Oh my goodness, it only gets hotter. So impressed by the children's singing max proposes. He entered them in the upcoming Salzburg festival, but the suggestion is immediately rejected by the captain as he does not allow his children to sing in public.
[00:43:00] [00:43:00] He does agree. However, to organize a grand party at the Villa, the night of the party while guests informal attire, waltz in the ballroom Maria and the children look on from the garden terrace. When the captain notices Maria teaching Kurt, the traditional. Landler folk dance. He cuts in and partners, Maria, and a graceful performance culminating in a close embrace, confused about her feelings, Maria blushes, and breaks away later.
[00:43:26] The Baronet who noticed the captain's attraction to Maria hides her jealousy while convincing Maria that she must return to the Abbey. And so we conclude accurately. Okay.
[00:43:40] Emma: [00:43:40] Well, wow. Wow. Wow. Um, Oh my gosh. I love this section part scene to, I mean, it makes me want to go to a ball and it's big. Dance and get dressed up and I want to be taught the men, the launch.
[00:44:00] [00:44:00] Yeah. So cool.
[00:44:01] Jack: [00:44:01] Tell us how to pronounce it. Our fans in Austria podcast, once again and myself for mispronouncing George earlier, what did I said, George, but it's really your Georg. Yeah. So apologies about that earlier folks. We are trying our best with these names. We love them, but yes, if you're from the region, please hit us up on social media and tell us how, how we should be pronouncing it.
[00:44:26] And thank you for your lovely, lovely culture. So
[00:44:31] Emma: [00:44:31] it's gorgeous. I just, I love it. I am so stunning. This dance when, uh, when captain cuts in on Curt,
[00:44:41] Jack: [00:44:41] what a move move. This is very smooth. This is a very, you know, like watching learn moment son from, uh, from cats. I don't know. I think it'd be kind of weird personally.
[00:44:54] It's a wash, just like your dad, who is this like stoic figure. Um, [00:45:00] yeah. Kind of have this moment with the governess. Uh, I think that, I would think that it's kind of strange. If I was one of the children, you have to know something's up. It would be very clear that something's up at that point. You're just in denial.
[00:45:14] If you think that something isn't up
[00:45:16] Emma: [00:45:16] the oldest ones, for sure. Like, I would say definitely Louisa up. Maybe Kurt maybe. Yeah. Um, I don't know. I don't know, but I, you know, I just, I love it. I love the tensions rising, who doesn't
[00:45:32] Jack: [00:45:32] even Gretel, who knows.
[00:45:35] Emma: [00:45:35] So, so interesting. And then how could you not love so long farewell?
[00:45:41] Um,
[00:45:43] Jack: [00:45:43] Oh man, we failed. We failed the test. We sung a song. Oh no,
[00:45:48] Emma: [00:45:48] I just, I love this part too. That's how I want to exit a room every time. Yeah. And I feel, you know, you, you just, I love that each little. Section perfectly [00:46:00] captures the kids' personalities too. I love that. Liesel's like, can I, uh, can I stick around a little bit and have a, just like just one, just one little sip of champagne, you know, just let me, I wasn't feeling like a grownup.
[00:46:11] Um, I just thought that was so you know, so Liezel, and then even Brigetta my, my fellow introvert girl, uh, being like, you know what? Not gonna lie. I'm I'm ready to peace out. I'm ready to go to bed. Like, that's just so cute. It just captures everyone really great.
[00:46:28] Jack: [00:46:28] And it's dynamic range. Oh my
[00:46:32] Emma: [00:46:32] goodness. A little Curt.
[00:46:35] No, I think he's got to break free. Yes. Then we get this unbelievable conclusion to our first act. The governess going to quote unquote, help Maria get ready for the party. But you know what? From a writing standpoint, I get it because like, if I am into my man, And he's into someone else. I'm going to feel [00:47:00] like, you know, I'm probably not going to be like runaway back to your Abbey, but I probably going to feel a little threatened.
[00:47:07] So I get it. I get her feeling like a little jealous or envious or threatened. Um, but at the same time, it's kind of like, how dare you? How dare you? Oh, you know what? I think this is really also a fun kind of behind the scenes fact. So Christopher Plummer actually said that the most romantic thing to happen on sets behind the scenes and.
[00:47:28] Story-wise with the sound of music coming to life was that, uh, the actress that played the Baroness Eleanor Parker, she actually fell in love with one of the camera men, and they eloped together how romantic, how romantic. So there is love for the bareness in some alternate universe.
[00:47:51] Jack: [00:47:51] I will say the shots of her did look good.
[00:47:53] So maybe, maybe that was, uh, you know, played a, a role there. So. [00:48:00] Yes, act two, act two begins back at the Abbey. When mother abbess learns that Maria has stayed in seclusion to avoid her feelings for the captain, but she encourages her to return to the Villa, to look for her life and not run away from her feelings.
[00:48:14] After Maria returns to the Villa, she learns about the captain's engagement to the Baroness and agrees to stay until they find a replacement governess, the captain's feelings for Maria, however, have not changed. And after breaking off his engagement, the captain marries Maria. So,
[00:48:31] Emma: [00:48:31] Oh, a what? A game changer.
[00:48:33] This is little way to start off the second act. Okay. First of all, I just, this is actually to me, a very touching powerful scene when mother ABAs encourages Maria to not hide and to, you know, embrace. Her herself and her life, her wants. And I just think it's a really cool scene, a cool message to face your fears, uh, that anyone can take [00:49:00] what really, to me, this is really interesting and I've always noticed this and I like kind of zeroed in and figured it out this time, watching it.
[00:49:10] Okay. Backtrack a little bit earlier on, uh, they comment on how hideous Marias dresses and how they had to give up all their earthly possessions to the poor. The poor didn't want that one. Okay. You have to give away all your clothes. Once you enter the Abbey. When Maria, before Maria goes into her meeting, there is a girl who is going to become a nun meeting with mother abbess and she is shown wearing a green dress.
[00:49:36] Now, when Maria finally chooses to go back to the Von Trapp kids, She is wearing that same dress that that girl came with. So she must have given up her dress to Maria. Great continuity there.
[00:49:49] Jack: [00:49:49] Wow. Catch that. Catch that. Yes.
[00:49:52] Emma: [00:49:52] Um, I just thought that that was pretty cool. Great attention to detail. Always admire of the attention.
[00:49:59] Yeah.
[00:50:00] [00:49:59] Jack: [00:49:59] Script supervisor. Well done very well done there on the continuity
[00:50:04] Emma: [00:50:04] costume category. Great, great. And these poor kids, these poor kids without their governess, I just, I feel for them, I love them going to try to appeal to Maria. I love that captain Von Trapp knows to go to Marta to get the info.
[00:50:19] She's kind of the, uh, I don't wanna say tattletale, but the one that will crack easiest children. And then how about this bareness? Why is it someone explained to me, why is it that every stepmother. He has this evil
[00:50:39] has this evil, evil, stepmother complex, and their solution to anything is like boarding school. We're just going to ship the kids to boarding
[00:50:48] Jack: [00:50:48] school.
[00:50:51] Emma: [00:50:51] It's an, every movie it's in like the parent trap.
[00:50:55] Jack: [00:50:55] Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I feel like, yeah, blonde evil [00:51:00] step-mom is just, I have like, when I close my eyes, I can just imagine it.
[00:51:04] And the barrenness is not far off from what I'm picturing, so it's definitely a trope.
[00:51:09] Emma: [00:51:09] And here it is folks here. It is the song that doesn't quite hit different for me, something good between the captain and Maria when they have their gazebo love moment. Okay. Beautifully shot scene. I like the song. It's just like the least one that I'm going to sing again.
[00:51:28] Jack: [00:51:28] Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. I mean, I actually thought that that was one of the best. Scenes. I think it's one of the most beautiful scenes. Yeah. I love the shadows and the light or the lack of light. Um, yes,
[00:51:41] Emma: [00:51:41] it's gorgeous. The Mrs. Genus, but like, Oh, they're called for each other. It's a beautiful scene.
[00:51:46] Yeah.
[00:51:46] Jack: [00:51:46] A lot of soft focus and these closeup shots, not just between them, but also between, you know, Ralph and Liesel. So it gives everyone this nice kind of angelic look. Very cool. Very cool. I love how it's shot, but I will echo your sentiment, [00:52:00] not the biggest fan of the song itself, but Oh my gosh, I texted you when I was watching the, uh, when I was doing the rewash, how would you like to be called a problem while you're walking down the aisle?
[00:52:14] You know, the nuns, maybe we can just change the lyrics for our, our Maria's a problem. And said, make it into something maybe a little bit more uplifting for the bride. Yeah, I, I,
[00:52:27] Emma: [00:52:27] it is. It's very funny. Um, I think like artistically, I think there's this sentiment that something that you think is a problem, isn't really a problem.
[00:52:38] It's just not a good fit. And they found the right fit for her. She found the right fit and everything is coming together as it should. And it was never really a problem. That's how I take it. And, um, I, this, this wedding, this what a, this, this could be a Royal
[00:52:55] Jack: [00:52:55] wedding, Royal wedding. This is a gorgeous,
[00:53:00] [00:52:59] Emma: [00:52:59] gorgeous scene.
[00:53:00] One of the most beautiful, one of my favorites. Movie wedding dresses of all time. I would love to do like a wedding trust special at some point on this podcast. But, um, yeah, gorgeous scene. I loved the, the bail, the billowing Vail. I believe the train of this dress was 14 feet long. Um, I believe, um, but yeah, it's still, still quite, uh, quite a bit of length there.
[00:53:24] It's just absolutely gorgeous. It's a beautiful shot scene. I love that. You've got the reprise going and you see Maria finally embracing her true calling of finding love with the captain and being the mother to these kids. And that was what she was meant to do, not to prepare them for their new mother bullshit.
[00:53:44] They kind of she's their new mother, but yeah. What would you feel a little weird as the kids like that your dad's marrying the governess or is it like yay.
[00:53:57] Jack: [00:53:57] Probably more. Yay. I feel like, [00:54:00] you know, they just had such a good time together. I like, yeah. They, they really tried their hardest, uh, to get her, I guess, gone within like the first night.
[00:54:09] But, um, I don't know. I feel like they all warmed up to her pretty, pretty quickly. She killed
[00:54:16] Emma: [00:54:16] it with kindness.
[00:54:17] Jack: [00:54:17] I think she, I think Maria hit a stroke of good fortune that there was a storm that night. And so, um, yeah, I felt like everything kind of fell into place after that. I don't think I'd feel very weird if I was one of the kids.
[00:54:30] Honestly, I'd just, maybe it's just me right now. Like I just want, you know, my, my parent or whatever to be happy. So, um, yeah. So this is a again, insane wedding. Uh, you guys really do have to watch the scene to really fully understand just how like insane the setting is in the church, but we progress. And we see that while they're on their honeymoon.
[00:54:54] Max enters the children into the Salzburg festival against their father's wishes. When they [00:55:00] learned that Austria has been annexed by the third Reich and the Angeles, the couple returned to their home where it's telegram awaits, informing the captain that he must report to the German Naval base at Bremerhaven to accept the commission and the German Navy, strongly opposed to the Nazis and the Angeles, the cats, and tells his family that they must leave.
[00:55:19] Austria immediately. That night is the Von Trapp family attempt to leave. They are stopped by a group of Brown shirts waiting outside the Villa when questioned by God lighter Han Ziller. The captain maintains their head to the Salzburg festival to perform Zeller insists on escorting them to the festival after which his men will accompany the captain to Bremerhaven
[00:55:43] Emma: [00:55:43] what a great, I love just from a storytelling standpoint, the stakes are raised.
[00:55:49] And I think it's very interesting to look at art that tackles like a historical event, Nazi, Germany, uh, annexed, [00:56:00] Austria in a Browns March, 1938, I believe. Yeah. And this was our real threat that the real bond traps were facing, um, their dad having to be essentially taken against as well. Yes. So I don't know this, this is just really great little suspense moment.
[00:56:20] Like them trying to escape the house with their car. Like how sad, just how sad that is kind of where my thoughts go. Yeah. That they're having to leave their home and might never return, or don't know when they'll return. I don't know. It's just really sad and crazy. And then, um, there was very quick thinking though.
[00:56:43] I kind of, I just love how music was their solution to be saved, I guess, that they're like, Oh, we're actually going to the festival for performing there. So it ended up paying out in the end that max decided to try to exploit his friend's children [00:57:00] and make them mass superstars, because that was kind of their saving grace with escape.
[00:57:07] Jack: [00:57:07] Right. Right. Exactly. And I think this is like, Uh, when you get a really nice like juxtaposition between the first half, even the beginning of the second, um, act, I would say this is a very like this, this nighttime scene, like this is from here until the end. Um, yeah. I, I just love how dark, how moody it is.
[00:57:29] I love watching the captain, you know, tear the flag down, ribbit bright, right down the middle, just, you know, great vibe, you know, I just, I love, love seeing that. So that's a
[00:57:40] Emma: [00:57:40] great scene full, definitely put that Geoff up on
[00:57:42] Jack: [00:57:42] our social media somewhere for sure. And so, yeah, I think that was like one of my, my favorite little moments that happened for the cats and I was just like, yeah, captain.
[00:57:49] Yeah. And, ah, man. Yeah. Just watching them try to escape, like you said, I mean, it's, it's like heartbreaking. You have no clue. Uh, if you're ever going to go [00:58:00] home again and, um, I think like, yeah. I mean, how do you escape with seven children? I mean, escaping with like, uh, yeah, especially little ones. Yeah. And so, um, yeah, just the amount of stress that had to be going on behind the scenes.
[00:58:17] I was actually thinking of this, uh, earlier, and this could apply to, you know, this film, but also just any other film, I wish that there were more SQLs done that were, uh, sort of like in these periods of downtime or, uh, like in between these chronological jumps from scene to scene, like, I would love to see, you know, like the captain Maria or something, like.
[00:58:40] Going back and forth between the decision and like how hard it would be for something like that, where you get like the, um, I guess the plot a little bit more fleshed out. So like, I think that would just kind of be like a cool thing for like sequels and I guess to put it into like a modern standpoint, this is not anywhere near related to the [00:59:00] sound of music, but the hangover, um, I think a cool sequel idea for that would have been just like what happened that night.
[00:59:06] Like not just necessarily, um, you know, directly after, but yeah, I think it would have been cool to see just what was going on in the Von Trapp households in the meantime, just because this is a, it's a cool, like. I dunno, it's a cool plot point. A lot of really tense stuff going on. So yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
[00:59:25] And I, this was a very tense scene too. Like I was genuinely on the edge of my seat. I was like, Oh man, just watching them escape, watching the, I guess the little figure in the window and everything like that. And even the ending, Oh man, it just, it gets very, very exciting. I would say. Yeah. Well, I
[00:59:45] Emma: [00:59:45] mean on that note, I guess, how does this kind of turn out here?
[00:59:49] Jack: [00:59:49] So later that night at the festival, during their final number, the Von Trapp family slip away and seek shelter and that nearby Abbey where mother abbess hides them in the cemetery, crypt [01:00:00] Brown shirts sooner arrive and search the Abbey, but the family is able to escape using the caretaker's car. When the soldiers attempt to pursue, they discovered their cars will not start is two nuns have removed parts of their engines.
[01:00:12] And say that they have sinned the next morning after driving to the Swiss border, the Von Trapp family make their way on foot across the frontier and to Switzerland to safety and freedom. Oh
[01:00:25] Emma: [01:00:25] my gosh. What an ending? What an ending, what an ending. Okay. Let's start with the festival. That's what's crazy about this scene is you would think, I feel like in so many movies, kind of the big show, the big, big music performance, very joyful, happy moment.
[01:00:43] This is not a joyful, happy moment. This is like a dark, our lives are very much at risk right now. Yeah. Like it's a very tension-filled performance on that note. I think they could have come up with something a little bit different in their lineup [01:01:00] than just singing the scales, like jam and bread and all that stuff.
[01:01:04] You know,
[01:01:05] Jack: [01:01:05] it's, it's
[01:01:07] Emma: [01:01:07] still right now. I just think that they had stronger. Options, but they do you know that the captain does give a final,
[01:01:16] Jack: [01:01:16] we've been pretty interesting to watch it, um, or I guess have them sing something like a few of my favorite things. My favorite thing, I think that that would have been kind of interesting just with like the darkness of this kind of theater.
[01:01:31] I would have loved that. I dunno. I think that that could have been a cool alternative if don't worry me wasn't chosen, but I think also them seeing Del Ramy, it's like, you're, you're thinking of them on these Hills and everything and these like, kind of like more intimate shots mixed with like the beautiful scenery.
[01:01:49] And then when you look at like the closeups, not only like, yeah, when you look the closeups in this, like this theater, this auditorium, like they're all in these drab. Dark [01:02:00] gray, neutral clothes, these costumes, and like the theater, it's like a prison, like you have these guards centrally. And so is, yeah.
[01:02:11] Emma: [01:02:11] It's, it's sad. I will say, I really think it was cool. Them singing them, singing so long farewell. Um, that was a really cool way to, I guess, say goodbye to everyone. And I don't know, I just liked it, but, and it wasn't like the cheery fun thing we got before. This was like a different dark, sad, a sad, so long farewell.
[01:02:32] It's a, it's a song that can really fit any occasion. I'm learning.
[01:02:36] Jack: [01:02:36] I also love Edelweiss. Uh, I, I was getting some strong Casa Blanca vibes when that was going on. Uh, feel free in our Costa Blanca episode. Everyone, if you haven't checked that one out, it's great. It's one of our first ones anyways. Yeah. So I loved.
[01:02:53] Watching eight wise and just the captain, you could see the, I guess the emotion and maybe the fear, [01:03:00] the, uh, the uncertainty of what's about to happen immediately after this is done.
[01:03:04] Emma: [01:03:04] Yes. It bought them some time, uh, cause they were able to escape and instead of claiming their prize, they use that as their time to escape to the Abbey, which, um, you know, I don't know, get what a, what a good call.
[01:03:21] I think I'd be like scared to put them on the nuns in danger if I were Maria, but I get it. Like we're also, they're going to go, wow, this scene. This was actually, this is like, I don't know this, this, this movie is really dynamic and I think it's got something for everyone. You have so much lightness to it.
[01:03:40] You've got so much fun musicality. It's very slight and easy, but then you also do have this very kind of scary dark ending where the Nazis are essentially. Tracking them down at the Abbey and trying to find them, and they're hidden in the crypt. So scary. Just [01:04:00] gets your heart pumping.
[01:04:01] Jack: [01:04:01] I w I w I was going to say, I mean, just the, uh, the scene where they're finally kind of like using their flashlights on for, or the, you know, the tombs sort of behind the gate, it's just, you know, you're, you're kind of holding your breath.
[01:04:15] Like, you're one of them. I think that was one of the strongest kind of like once of camera work that they had was like, they had these angles sort of like you were hiding along with them. And especially like
[01:04:26] Emma: [01:04:26] the little
[01:04:27] Jack: [01:04:27] ones, uh, like when, um, I think it was gradual when she's like, should we sing about her?
[01:04:32] Are things are our favorite things. And I think that just like put it into context who they, who they like. Had to also take care of. So like the stakes are just so high and everything is tense
[01:04:45] Emma: [01:04:45] and even, um, are like, you know, you're worried about the little ones making a peep, but our girl Liezel gets quite a scare.
[01:04:52] She sees her ex has left her to join this group, her little [01:05:00] Nazi ass boyfriend going to potentially rat them out. So then they escape, but Ralph, her boyfriend stays behind and he's like, bam, I've got you and kids and real I'll leave. And then catching Von Trapp gets a little ballsy in my opinion. I know,
[01:05:20] Jack: [01:05:20] I know.
[01:05:22] I very, very well could have been shot. I think that if there was no history behind Ralph and captain, I think that was it for captain I,
[01:05:30] Emma: [01:05:30] yeah. Yeah. I, um, I know Catherine was like, Yeah, how he approached him. Like, you're not going to shoot me. You're just a boy. I was like, don't provoke him then. Like, definitely wouldn't do that.
[01:05:46] I, that, Ooh, I don't think he would have killed him because he was definitely worth more alive than dead. And Ralph would've been screwed if he brought him back dead, but he definitely could've got him in the shoulder, [01:06:00] maimed him or something.
[01:06:03] Jack: [01:06:03] Exactly. Exactly. So, but again, captain, you got the gun. Why, why provoke the bear more?
[01:06:11] Or, you know, just take the dub and too cocky. He got way too cocky. What was it? What'd he say? He's like, you'll never be one of them. And I was like, why did you have to say that? So, um, Yeah. I mean, great thinking on the nuns parts to have the forest that, you know, there might be a, a chase at the very end of everything.
[01:06:35] Hey, and I was thinking like,
[01:06:38] Emma: [01:06:38] I, I, I would love to ask someone very well versed in Catholic beliefs. Cause I know it's kind of so funny, like, Oh, we've sinned. They didn't really send because they were saving the lives of like good people. Like, is that like a, like, do you have to say that confession though?
[01:06:56] I don't know. You tell me someone, [01:07:00] someone, someone who's well-versed
[01:07:02] Jack: [01:07:02] let me know. I, I do believe that whatever the final verdict is, it will be forgiven. Yeah.
[01:07:12] Emma: [01:07:12] But the end, the last shot, they do escape to Switzerland to neutrality and, um, That's that's just really like what a track that is with your kids.
[01:07:22] Um, and so if you don't know the Von Trapp family in real life, instead of escaping to Switzerland, they actually escaped to Italy by train, literally like right before the borders were closed. So they like the real family just made it out to Italy. And then from Italy, they went, I think, to the UK and the UK, they came to Vermont in the United States.
[01:07:46] The
[01:07:46] Jack: [01:07:46] closest thing is what's her lines where I guess
[01:07:51] Emma: [01:07:51] so. Yeah. So actually, um, the Von Trapp family, if you're really interested in them and their history, and if you've ever wanted to go to Vermont, [01:08:00] you can stay at the Trapp family lodge in Stowe, Vermont, and the States, and see it yourself. Learn a little bit about them.
[01:08:07] Uh, you can stay there. That's also on my bucket list. But yeah, I just thought that was really interesting. Amazing. So happy that they escaped. What? Just like a happy feel-good story.
[01:08:18] Jack: [01:08:18] Yeah. And again, some great helicopter shots at the end, the grass is still going crazy. Uh, watching the captains struggle with Gretel on his shoulders while being blown over by helicopter and the wind.
[01:08:30] Yeah. The quote unquote wind. So yeah. Beautiful, beautiful movie. The sound of music. Absolutely phenomenal. Wash it. If you haven't hope you enjoyed it, if you did. And, Oh my goodness. I'm I had so much fun. Thank you again for setting up everything with the March madness bracket. Congrats again, to the sound of music for winning the first annual old soul movie podcast, March madness bracket tournament, and.
[01:08:54] Emma: [01:08:54] Be on the lookout. We'll definitely do another bracket again, maybe in a couple months because maybe a smaller one. [01:09:00] Um, cause that was so fun. And also, yeah, we just got so much love for cat on a hot tin roof and the great Gatsby, uh, beyond the lookout, definitely late spring or early summer for those movies.
[01:09:11] We'll add them to the lineup. Since I was getting a lot of requests on the, on the side
[01:09:15] Jack: [01:09:15] for those, yeah. It's B will need to be done in the summer because things are about to go off. I have a feeling, so yes, the twenties are about to ensue people. I don't know. Maybe that's just my thoughts, but we'll see what happens, but either way we'll have Gaspe to, uh, to enjoy it, whether it be virtually or, you know, if you're living the life out there either way, be safe, stay safe, stay very safe.
[01:09:41] Um, Emma, anything. To add before we sign off here, you
[01:09:44] Emma: [01:09:44] know, I just, I feel, I feel, yeah, the winter melting away. I feel the sunshine coming out. I think good things are on the horizon for everyone and just stay strong, support each other, uh, keep on being considerate of everyone and, [01:10:00] um, yeah, stay tuned. We will be finishing up next week with another iconic.
[01:10:06] Women oriented film for women's history month. Um, Ooh. Be on the lookout for a watch list, uh, highlighting women, directed movies. Very cool. I think first time in history, we have two women, um, nominated for best director, this Academy awards, which are in April this year. And yeah, just keep on celebrating women's stories.
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